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Jeff Kent: Hall of Fame?

Wednesday, January 21st, 2009

A contribution by JTT:

Is he a Hall of Famer?
 
The Fantasy Baseball magazine I was using for last year's draft referred to him as an obvious Hall
of Famer, which hadn't really occurred to me.  He didn't really put up
a single-season worth of Hall consideration 1998, at which point he was
already 30 years old.  (Prior to that, it's a bunch of years where he
went like .270/20/70, which is hardly Hall-worthy.)  Then from
1998-2002, he put up fairly elite numbers, which allowed him to win the
2000 MVP (although even then, a strong case could be made that Bonds
truly deserved the award).  Since then, he's generally been solid but
nothing spectacular — statlines like .290/25/90 or so.  This has
allowed his career totals to be respectable: a .290 lifetime BA, 2298
Hits, 377 HRs, and 1518 RBIs.
 
I don't think he would have a realistic chance if he were a 1B or
OF, but because he plays 2B — and in fact, has set various offensive
records at 2B — he probably will get in.  This would make sense if
Kent were a good defensive 2B.  If he were a Gold Glove caliber player,
and he put up those numbers, then by all means he
should go in.  (Something like this applies in the case of Ryne
Sandberg.)  But I always was of the impression that Kent was supposed
to be pretty mediocre defensively.  He was like having just another 1B
on the field, but shifted over 50 feet.  If that's right, then I don't
think it makes sense to hold him to lower offensive standards.

Baseball, Statistics and Intuition

Wednesday, January 7th, 2009

This article states that the unconscious mind is a better decision maker than it's been given credit for.  The discussion of rational conscious decision making versus unconscious decision making (for these purposes I'll refer to as intuition) has always intrigued me.  Lately it's implications in the baseball world has really drawn my attention.

Within the last 8 or so years, with the advent of the book Moneyball, the area of baseball statistics called Sabermetrics has really grown in popularity and legitimacy.  Sabermetrics aren't new, in fact the Godfather of them, Bill James, has been publishing for 20+ years.  With the rise in legitimacy, they are now being used by many as the foundation for determining awards, salary, playing time, promotions/demotions, signings, etc.  It's hard not to read a baseball article without some mention of OBP or VORP.  The Sabermetrics proponents will claim that these statistics that are surpassing the older statistics, such as RBI's, Wins and Batting Average, are in fact much more accurate and more of a reflection of a player's true value.  The use of the older statistics has fooled us, and moreso that decisions not based on the results of sabermetrics (ie intuition) are not optimal.  For example, a manager's decision to pinch hit or not and with whom is almost always second guessed using a metric claimed by Sabermetricians to be rational measurement.  I have two main points:

1)  First, when comparing Sabermetric stats vs. traditional stats the sabermetric stats do bring a great insights that traditional statistics failed to do.  In general, however the proponents of the Sabermetric stats fail to admit that stats, in general, have to based on a certain premise that can't be statistically proven, so it's a reduction to eventually making an intuitive claim.  See this post for more info.

2)  When making a decision in baseball there are a multitude of factors and variables that statistics can only measure in the broadest sense.  For example, it's the 8th inning the Yankees are down by 1 with 2 outs, runner on 2nd.  They have A-Rod on the bench and Melky Cabrera to pinch hit.  It's sprinkling slightly, the pitcher is lefty, A-Rod is slightly hung over, Cabrera is 2-20 in his last 20 AB's, but 12-30 in his last 30 AB's, and I could go on and and on adding variable after variable.  The statistics can tell you which batter hits better average, obp, slugging, and it can probably even reduce it to vs. lefty/righty, home/away etc.  However, at a certain point there is not a stat that can take in every single factor of this situation and give you a best probability.  That is when the manager uses his intuition to make a decision.  Often this is mocked by "rational thinkers", however those people must consider the fact that the unconscious mind is a better aggregator and decision maker on certain subjects with lots of random info.  Sometimes it's better to trust your gut.  The assumption I am making, though, is that the person making the decision is well experienced and has a base of conscious and sub conscious information to draw from.  For example, Joe Torre's gut about baseball decisions should be relied on more than say Bill Clinton's.  Torre has a lifetime of baseball experience.

I am not laying claim that statistics and sabermetrics should be thrown to the side in favor of intuition.  I'm just making the claim that some decisions aren't best served by using flawed data such as sabermetrics, and in lieu of better information one should use their intuition if they have the experience to draw from.

Jim Rice

Tuesday, December 2nd, 2008

Another insightful thought by JTT:

I was reading a Yankee blog today, and the topic of discussion was the Hall of Fame.
 
One thing I had sort of lost track of is that one of the reasons
Jim Rice has had trouble making it into the Hall of Fame is that even
though he was good at the traditional statistics (BA/HR/RBI), he was
not very good (or at least not Hall-Worthy) at the Sabermetric
statistics, particularly OBP.  So, for instance, his career OBP of .352
is just 1 point above Walt Weiss's career OBP of .351.  So, if OBP is
your standard, Rice is barely more Hall-worthy than Weiss.  (By
comparison, Rice's career BA was .298 while Weiss's was .258.)
 
For reasons indicated in my previous post, I think this is unforunate: an RBI guy like Rice shouldn't
have a good OBP (more exactly: he shouldn't have an OBP much better
than his BA).  But setting that aside, another point I wanted to make
is this.  There are now a whole bunch of different Sabermetric stats
based partly on OBP: VORP, Runs Created, Runs Created/27 Outs, Win
Share, etc.  Look at all these stats, and you'll see that Rice doesn't
rank that highly.  But this is a kind of illusion: it creates the
impression that there were many dimensions along which Rice sucked: he sucked at OBP, and he sucked at VORP, and he sucked at Runs Created, and he sucked at Win Share, etc.
 
But, in truth, there's only one thing he sucked at: drawing
walks.  And this one bad trait is what keeps all those other stats down
for him.  Put this way, the case for Rice is stronger.  Rice was really
good at various things: BA, HR, RBI, etc.  Is the fact that he wasn't
Hall-of-Fame caliber at drawing walks enought to keep him out of the
Hall of Fame? 

2008 NL MVP: Pujols v. Howard

Thursday, November 20th, 2008

This comes from an email exchange with my friend JTT.  My email:

Here is another article and counter article by two really good
sportswriters, Thomas Boswell and Joe Posnanski.  Definitely read
these, Boswell is making points very similar to what you were making
earlier this year, JTT.  Thing is he's getting blasted by commenters
and other bloggers/writers. 

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/baseball-insider/2008/11/mvps_howard_k-rod_not_pujols_p.html

http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2008/11/19/life-of-boswell/

JTT's email response:

That is pretty interesting.  Obviously, I disagree with the
specific judgment of Howard over Pujols (as indicated in my prior
e-mail), but I don't think it's crazy.  I strongly agree with Boswell
on this though: the VORP discrepancy between Howard and Pujols is just
so great that the obvious inference to draw here is that this is one of
those things VORP gets badly wrong.  That's not the end of the world;
it doesn't mean VORP is a bad stat.  Even good stats will get things
wrong, occasionally.  Here is one time when VORP really screws up. 
And, truth be told, everyone really knows it's misleading here.  Even
the people attacking Boswell so harshly here surely don't believe that
Pujols is 3 times more valuable than Ryan Howard,
which is what you would have to believe if you accepted their VORP
ratings.  If the Boswell-critics really do believe this, we need to
bring them into our fantasy league and EWB leagues, so I can exploit
the hell out of them.  I'll gladly trade them my 1 Pujols for their 3
Ryan Howards, and we'll just see who fares better.
 
One other point I would make in connection here is this.  Potentially, there are literally an infinite
number of baseball stats you could consider.  Take slugging percentage
for example.  To calulate it, you take ((singles x 1) + (doubles x 2) +
(triples x 3) + (HR x 4))/AB.  Offhand, it seems obvious why you would
select just these values — why a single should get 1 point, a double 2
points, and so on.  But in truth, I would bet my life that these aren't
the "real values" of these different sorts of hits.  That is, I would
bet my life that 1 HR isn't "equivalent in value" to 4 singles, or to 2
doubles, or to 1 triple + 1 single, etc.  Here is a quick argument for
the conclusion: Suppose you get to choose what your team's offensive
production will be today, which option do you prefer (a) 1 HR, no other
hits, or (b) 1 triple, 1 single (not necessarily consecutive, just over
the course of the game), and no other hits?  I guarantee you that (a)
on average will deliver your team more runs, because (a) guarantees at
least *one* run, the guy who hit the HR (in addition, there may or may
not be runners on base).  In contrast, (b) doesn't guarantee you at
least one run.  If the triple takes place in the 2nd inning and the
single in the 7th, it doesn't really help you at all.  Obviously, there
are possible scenarios where (b) leads to more runs: the triple
happened right after you got two walks, and the single happened when
there was a runner on 2nd thanks to an error, etc.  Still, I guarantee
that (a) will have the higher expected run-value than (b).
 
So then, why not revise SLUG?  Here's a new way we could calculate
it: ((singles x 1) + (doubles x 2) + (triples x 3) + (HR x 4.2))/AB. 
Call this SLUG* (slug-prime).  The way it differs from original SLUG is
that SLUG* assigns a value of 4.2 to a home run, instead of just 4. 
This is to reflect our latest conclusion, that a HR is really worth
more than 1 triple + 1 single.  (According to SLUG*, a HR is worth 4.2,
while a triple + single is worth 4.)  Well, from that first step, you
can see how (literally, infinitiely) many different revisions might
go.  Why not assign a single the value of .9, or .91, or .911, or
.9111, etc., infinitely.  I say let a thousand flowers bloom, and use
each statistic so-generated: so you have SLUG, SLUG*, SLUG**, SLUG***,
and so on, for infitenly many different stats.  And that's just
limiting our attention to variations on slugging percentage — here
alone we get infinitely many different statistical measures.
 
Depending on which stat you use, you're bound to get different
valuations of players.  So for instance, Pedroia has a worse SLUG than
Youkilis.  But, suppose that if you use SLUG*****, Pedroia is better
than Youkilis.  So then, the question is, which statistic is a better
measure of true value, SLUG or SLUG*****?  If it's SLUG, then Youkilis
should get the MVP; if it's SLUG*****, Pedroia should get the vote. 
But how do you find out which statistic is better?
 
Here's the upshot.  The conflict isn't really between "stats" and
"commonsense" .  If you want me to back up my commonsense verdicts,
with "stats," I can do that all day.  Playing the role of Boswell,
Pujols is better than Howard at VORP, but Howard is better than Pujols
at VORP x RBI.  (VORP x RBI isn't a pre-existing stat, I just made it
up: it's VORP multiplied by RBI total.)  So question, why should we
care about VORP more than VORP x RBI?  Why not vote on the basis of
VORP x RBI and thus give the award to Howard over Pujols?  Hey, that
way, we can claim to be honoring both Sabermetrics (by including VORP) and traditional stats (by including RBIs).  Everyone should be happy.
 
I don't really buy this argument, but my point is this.  There's
no way to figure out which stat is bettern between SLUG vs. SLUG****,
between VORP vs. VORP x RBI, than by appealing to commonsense.  There's
no way to assess it by appealing to more stats.  For, even if you do
show me some stat that indicates VORP is better, I'll just invent my
own stat that says VORP x RBI is better.  (And again, Sabermetrics
people ultimately ground their claims in commonsense anyway, e.g., when
they discredit RBIs.  They argue that RBIs depend on too many
extraneous factors.  Let me stipulate that they're right about this. 
Even so, it's a commonsense appeal, not statistics.)

Reliving Baseball Cards, Thank You Internet!

Wednesday, November 19th, 2008

The 1980's were a glorious time to be collecting baseball cards as a kid.  The hobby was really hitting a peak, magazines such as Beckett's started publishing values to the cards, and everybody I knew collected cards.  My love for baseball carries on to this day but somewhere along the line, probably around age 12, my love for collecting cards faded.

However, like with other childhood nostalgia there comes a point when sometimes you yearn to re-experience it.  In my case, one day while stumbling through the web a happened upon a weblog that was sifting through the 1988 Topps Set.  It's great!  Seeing all the cards with a new, fresh perspective.  Examining the photography, checking out the stats again, correcting misperceptions of my youth (a lot of these players were much better or much worse than I remembered as a kid).

I recommend you check out the site here, even if you never collected cards you'll enjoy it if you're a baseball fan.  There is a relevant background and stats.  That same guy also is doing a 1978 Topps Set here and I just finished with this post and was great.

I believe there are several baseball card sites on the internet, I plan to check as many as I can out.  It is very relaxing and escapist to pore over these childhood relics.

Why Barry Bonds and Wall Street Are Both Getting Screwed

Friday, October 17th, 2008

Finally it's going to come out.  The baseball player's union is going to take it to MLB Owners for colluding against Barry Bonds.

Wasn't it obvious they colluded to keep Bonds out? Freaking Infuriating.  I
hope MLB gets nailed to the wall for this.  This really pissed me off
this season, Bonds should have gotten a fair chance to play.  As a fan
I wanted to see him play.  You know he's clean for sure, so let's see
what he can do clean and in his early 40's.

I have no vehemence
to Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens or anyone else they slimed.  Well, maybe
Palmeiro was a little sleazy but I feel bad for people like Clemens and
McGwire.  I wanted to see Bonds play.  If Florida was going to pull the
trigger on the Manny Ramirez trade and decided not to because of the
cost, WTF?  Why not pick up Barry Bonds, pay him league minimum (which
he was going to donate to charity anyway)?  It's a no lose, if he sucks
drop him – no cost, if he is disruptive, drop him – no cost, can't play
defense, drop him – no cost.  Tampa Bay, a DH AL team, same thing when
Longoria went down.  No Crawford and no Longoria, in a pennant race,
why not?

Biggest sham in the world, do they think everyone is stupid? 

Here's the deal and the parallel with Wall St.  The players in baseball most likely used some enhancing drugs, but the rules allowed it.  In fact there were no rules.

1)  In an extremely competitive atmosphere players used performance enhancers to get ahead.  Why?  Because others were doing it and their livelihoods depended on it.
1a)  In an extremely competitive atmosphere banks leveraged gaboodles of money to make risky investments.  Why?  Because others were doing it and making even more gaboodles of money.  If not them it was going to be their competitor, livelihoods depended on it.

2)  The result of an increase in performance enhancing drugs in the league caused more offense and as a result more attendance and as a result more money for the owners.  Times were good, players were chasing records and attendances were finally coming back from the dismal 1994 strike season.
2a)  The result of the increased investing and leverage for the banks allowed for everyone to be happy, the economy grew, the market went up and the corporations made lots of money.  The economy was coming back strong after the dismal recession after 9/11.

3)  This was the direct result of the MLB rulers, namely Bud Selig, turning a blind eye to the performance enhancers.  There were no rules or testing in MLB for performance enhancing drugs.  Why bother, everyone is doing well.
3a)  The increased investments made by banks were a direct result of the Fed giving out money.  Interest rates were so low, you were stupid not to use it.  The government and Fed had no reason to step in, instead turn a blind eye and delude yourself.  Everyone is doing well.

4)  Finally alarm bells start to go off.  Ken Caminiti, Jose Canseco, Balco.
4a)  Alarm bells go off.  Defaults, foreclosures, mortgage companies failing.

5)  Public turns on players using steriods, attacking them from moral stances.
5a)  Public turns on Wall St.  Calling them greedy and immoral.

6)  MLB cleans up its system and persecutes the stars of its game, whom they ALLOWED to use performance enhancing drugs.
6a)  Treasury attempts to clean up its system and will try to persecute the banks and bankers it ALLOWED to leverage so high and make risky investments.

Are the players and bankers guilty?  Yes, but they only did what the system allowed them to do.  The people that deserve the wrath in both situations are the rule makers of the games, not the players of the games. 

Sarah Palin, Manager of the Boston Red Sox

Thursday, October 16th, 2008

If Sarah Palin were the manager of the Red Sox right now in their attempt to come back from a 3-1 deficit in the ALCS agains Tampa Bay.  A little jest during playoff and election time.

On Boston being the more American team:
"Look at their name, Hussein Obama the DEVIL Rays!  You betcha, promoting the work of the Devil, what kind of American does that?  They don't use that Hussein Devil anymore, but they can't deceive us!"

On being down 3-1 to Tampa Bay in the ALCS:
"Look were not going to quit now.  We're doing this for every Joe Six Pack in America Boston, to give him a voice amongst the overwhelming Liberal Yankee Press.  We will fight and play hardball slander against our opponents."

On opposing manager Joe Maddon:
"Do you know who Barack Obama Joe Maddon is?  Did you know he associates with former terrorists Yankees, like Bill Ayers Joe Torre?

On her job as manager of the Red Sox:
"As for that VP manager talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer
that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the
VP manager does every day?"

On her dedication to the Red Sox winning the World Series:
"Pray for our military men and women Red Sox who are striving to do what is
right
defeat the Rays. Also, for this country Boston, that our leaders Epstein, our national leaders John Henry,
are sending soldiers players out on a task that is from God. That's what we
have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that
that plan is God's plan."

EDIT (10/17/08):  After seeing last night's game, Boston coming back from a 7-0 deficit with 7 outs to go, it may just be God's plan.  Sorry.

Edgar Martinez: Hall of Fame?

Monday, October 6th, 2008

I wanted to write about Edgar Martinez and his worthiness for the Hall of Fame, believing that he would not be highly represented.  Well I was wrong, Martinez has a nice grassroots campaign and many are coming to the realization that he was an extremely good player.  Here are two links that fully explore his merit:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/356292_edgar25.html
http://www.abarim.com/edgar.htm

Since those links do a great job of explaining why he should get in, I want to explore a couple of reasons why he may not or why it may take a while.

  1. Edgar Martinez's career spanned from 1987 to 2004.  During the majority of this time it was traditional stats that were paid attention to, BA/HR/RBI.  Now Martinez still put up respectable lines in the traditional stat line, however, his real strength was in his Sabermetric stat lines, BA/OBP/SLG/OPS.  Sabermetrics are still a recently new phenomenon, or at least newly recognized.  As Martinez was retiring people began recognizing value in the stats that he excelled at.  Had his career taken place in present day, we would have heard about the virtues of Edgar Martinez more often, making him more of a mainstream star.
  2. Obviously playing in Seattle is more of a hindrance for Martinez than a help.  First, If Martinez had played in any of MLB's large market, Northeast US teams he would be an auto Hall of Famer.  Much of our opinion, despite the abundance of statistics is based on perception.  Martinez lacks a great story.  Believe me, the press of NY or Boston would have created a story for Edgar Martinez which they would have burned into our sub conscious, our opinion of Martinez would be quite different.  Fair or not, this is an obstacle Martinez will have to overcome.
  3. His position of DH.  This topic is covered well in the links above.  However, this contributes to Martinez being an under the radar player.  There is no magical catches or defensive plays that voters can harken back to in order to help justify a vote.  By all standards, Martinez is a great player but pretty boring.

If given a vote for the Hall of Fame, which should happen, I would vote YES for Edgar Martinez.  I've always liked him and thought he was under recognized.  After seeing his stats in comparison with other Hall of Famers, I feel vindicated.  Damn it, I was right all those years, Martinez was better than just good, he was legitmately one of the game's best.